Wi: Fairey Fulmar

This has been dicussed a lot on various forums over the years. If you go into the 'JustLeo' memorial archive thread I am fairly sure that he at some time produced an illustration of a single seat Fulmar. If you just take out the second seat from the OTL fulmar you still have a large and heavy aircraft. if you start shortening the fuselage and doing other redesign works then why not a new proper single seater.
 
You also then cause lots of lovely problems with the centre of gravity. By the time you moved the wing to take that into account you may as well start from scratch.
 
Would the Fairey fulmar be able to be turned into a single seat mono-plane fighter?

Of course. Not to gain anything, though.

Any suggestions?

Make a 1-seater from the get-go - ~250 sq ft wing, obviously shorter and lighter fuselage, 'beard' radiator (already is known from the Battle), 150 imp gals of fuel, later the ability to carry drop tanks. 8 Brownings, switch to cannons when available. Perhaps Bristol Hercules might be a more suitable engine - the drag is already high, so engine's swapping will not mess streamlining, and extra 20% power in 1941-42 might be useful. Or, Merlin X engine, switch to 20 series when available.
Result is nothing fancy, performance should've been in range of the Sea Hurricane, Wildcat, Oscar or early Zeroes = suitable for bomber busting, does not afraid of fighters of a day.

Just Leo's take on subject: picture

If we must use the OTL Fulmar, then a better engine is a must - Hercules or Merlin 20s ASAP.

Obvoiusly, a more refined Sea Hurricane will work.
 
Radial engine for it?

Most plausible choice is the Hercules, other British radials will not cut it, Centaurus is not developed enough.
Not that far-fetched is the R-2600 (either bought in the USA or licence-produced by, say, Alvis or Armstrong-Siddeley). R-1830 does not bring anything, the R-2180 got next to no development in the late 1930s-early 1940s (thus a non-starter). R-2800 is interesting choice, especially for 1942 when the Americans can spare a few hundreds.
Fulmar was a bit bigger than Hellcat/Corsair/Jug, though much lighter.
 
Hercules engined Spitfire developed by Fairey. In 1940 it would be the best carrier fighter in service and even by 1945 would be a nasty prospect for anyone.

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Hercules engined Spitfire developed by Fairey. In 1940 it would be the best carrier fighter in service and even by 1945 would be a nasty prospect for anyone.

Hercules-engined Spitfire makes plenty of sense IMO. Sorta mid/late ww2 Japanese A/C, or as close the Fw-190As as possible. By late 1944, Hercules was making almost 2000 HP, also gaining, finally, a proper exhaust system; post war more than 2100 HP was available by versions that were in production and service. Talk Bearcat level of performance.

Re. the picture - I'd remove the under-wing radiators (that also removes a significant source of drag, to cancel-out increased 'nose drag') ;)
 
Gloster gorshawk MK 1 single seat Fighter specs

Crew: 1
Range: 650 miles
Engine: 1 RR Merlin x
Speed: 330 mph
Armament: six 50 cal Vickers heavy machine guns
 
A couple of years ago there was a very good thread on a navalised version of the single seat Defiant, In 1939 with four 20mm cannon that really is a 'Go To' fighter for the FAA,
 

Glyndwr01

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Of course. Not to gain anything, though.



Make a 1-seater from the get-go - ~250 sq ft wing, obviously shorter and lighter fuselage, 'beard' radiator (already is known from the Battle), 150 imp gals of fuel, later the ability to carry drop tanks. 8 Brownings, switch to cannons when available. Perhaps Bristol Hercules might be a more suitable engine - the drag is already high, so engine's swapping will not mess streamlining, and extra 20% power in 1941-42 might be useful. Or, Merlin X engine, switch to 20 series when available.
Result is nothing fancy, performance should've been in range of the Sea Hurricane, Wildcat, Oscar or early Zeroes = suitable for bomber busting, does not afraid of fighters of a day.

Just Leo's take on subject: picture

If we must use the OTL Fulmar, then a better engine is a must - Hercules or Merlin 20s ASAP.

Obvoiusly, a more refined Sea Hurricane will work.

Looks like a Hurricane and Spitfire had a drunken trist!
 
Gloster gorshawk MK 1 single seat Fighter specs

Crew: 1
Range: 650 miles
Engine: 1 RR Merlin x
Speed: 330 mph
Armament: six 50 cal Vickers heavy machine guns

That seems very plausible. Again, Just Leo's multiple take on the Gloster fighter, including 3 examples with hooks: picture
On the other hand, range must be at least as twice of that 650 miles figure, if not 3 times greater with a drop tank or two.
 
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